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Q: Could I please ask on your website if
anyone has heard of the Bath Tavern, probably in Ironbridge. On the 1851 census
my gggfather was the 'Innkeeper' Bath Tavern, 54? Coalbrookdale Road. He was
Frederic(k) W. B Poole [born Madeley]. In the 1861 census he is down as
Innkeeper, Jackfield. His parents were Thomas [born in Madeley] and Isabella
living at 51 Coalbrookdale. Any information on Thomas, Frederick or the
Ironbridge Bath Tavern would be most appreciated. Living so far away makes
investigations very difficult.
Q: Could I please add something to my e-mail
yesterday. In the brackets behind Thomas Poole could you alter this to [Town
Crier, born Madeley] please. This might open up another avenue!? I assume he was
the Town Crier in Ironbridge, he was aged 65 in the 30 Mar 1851 census; he was
also practising as a hairdresser at this time.
Q: Thank-you for posting my query. I'll give
you a little background information if that is OK. Frederick's father Thomas had
nine children [all in Madeley], the last one in 1825 when he was a hairdresser.
In 1823 and before that, he was a china painter [according to his children's
christening records]. He was married in Wellington. Apparently, then, it was a
yuppy thing to get married away from home!! His best man was a John Roden. On
www.sfhs.org.uk/Inns1828.asp -
if one scrolls 80% down the long list, one comes up with WELLINGTON and in this
section under maltsters there is a Thomas Poole - Walker Street and directly
below it John Roden - Parker Street. I don't know whether this is sheer
coincidence, because in the 1851 census he was still a 'Hairdresser and Town
Crier' of Ironbridge; or maybe he moved up there after 1825 and moved back
before 1851?? It seems strange that Thomas's son - Frederick was an Innkeeper
and in 1875 Frederick's son Thomas William Poole was a "Beer House Keeper" in
Stoke-on-Trent when T. W. Poole got married. There seems to be too many
coincidences for me. Very frustrating. With regard to why I put 54?, for the
address; I am not sure whether the numbering system in the census refers to the
54th house or 54 Coalbrookdale, hence the ?. Coalbrookdale appeared in the
street column on a previous page. There was no street name on page 15 or 16 of
this census, just 'Ironbridge' at the top of the page, and 51 and 54 for my
forefathers' homes. A: The Bath Tavern was technically in Madeley, just a short distance away from Ironbridge. The parish of Ironbridge was formed in 1845 from the parish of Madeley. Although closed as a public house, I believe the property is still standing on Bath Road [formerly called Bath Lane]. The extract to the left is taken from a trade directory dated 1842. Your ancestor's full name was Frederick William Bathurst Poole. The son of Thomas Parker Poole and Isabella Glazebrook, he was born in Madeley around 1814. He was recorded as a publican in 1841. He kept the Bath Tavern with his wife Martha. One year his senior, she was also born in Madeley. Their children Elizabeth and Thomas were living at the pub in 1851. The family later moved to Broseley where Frederick and Martha kept another tavern. I wondered whether this was the Crown and Sceptre Inn as the family had an interest in this house but Slater's directory of 1868 lists Frederick Poole at the Station Inn at Ironbridge. By 1871 Frederick Poole was working as a butcher at Church Hill in Madeley. Roll on another ten years and he was recorded as a retired innkeeper living in Kidderminster with his wife Martha. He died in the carpet manufacturing town in 1893. Kieron |
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Q: One of my ancestors lived at the Rising
Sun in Dawley in 1867, an Isaac Vaughan. I wonder if anyone has any information
or photographs of this pub, or if it is still there maybe under another name? A: The Rising Sun Inn was located in Dawley Green Lane [later Dawley Road] and was a beer house. Your ancestor Isaac Vaughan, a former miner and charter master born in the local area, kept the house for many years in the mid-19th century. He and his wife Eunice had earlier lived in Old Park Road when he pursued his earlier career. They moved to the Rising Sun Inn during the 1860's. By 1871 the couple had eight children living on the premises. The three eldest sons, Thomas, Noah and Enoch, all worked as miners. William Vaughan however worked with his father at the Rising Sun Inn. It would appear that Isaac had remarried because in the census of 1881 he was living with a woman called Emma. It was with her that he later moved further along Dawley Road where he worked as a waggoner and shopkeeper. Edward Bailey was running the Rising Sun Inn during the early 1890's. Kieron |
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Q: I should be interested in obtaining a
list of past landlords of the White Lion Inn at Ketley. Around the turn of the
20th century it was kept by Arthur Cooper, the second husband of ancestor of
mine, and in roughly the 1950's or 1960's it was kept by another relative of
mine, Albert Wright. This is the information I have found so far about the White
Lion's landlords, and the source: Clara Mary Marshall, 1891, Kelly's Directory,
Arthur Cooper, 1895, Kelly's Directory, Arthur Cooper, 1901 Census, Albert
Allen, 1913, Kelly's Directory, and Albert and Kay Wright, dates unknown. A: A sign between the bedroom windows on this photograph suggests that the pub's origins stretch back to the 17th century. It was certainly a pub that benefited from its location on Watling Street. This road was turnpiked in 1726 and a new section was constructed around 1817. In addition to serving the local trade, the White Lion Inn competed for the custom of many weary travellers passing through the locality. There is a large outbuilding to the rear of the pub and I wondered if it had been used as a small brewery in past times. And, indeed, Arthur Cooper was recorded as a brewer and licensed victualler in the census conducted in 1901. He kept the White Lion Inn with his Lichfield-born wife Sarah. The couple had earlier lived in nearby Donnington. Kieron |
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