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I have been researching my family tree and there are a lot of links which I hope you can add to. Bear with me, I have tried to put them in order! 1841 Census : Sarah Ann Heron [née Barnett] is my paternal 2nd great grandmother. Father was James Barnett age 35 innkeeper. 1861 census : William Heron paternal 2nd great grandfather age 35 publican back of Farm Street 152, St George's, Birmingham [Beer house?]. 1881 census : William Heron licensed victualler Guildford Arms, age 53, St George's, Birmingham. 1891 census : William Heron age 65 retired licensed victualler. 1891 census : William Rushton age 48 publican. 57 Grosvenor Street West, White Swan Inn, Ladywood. Father to Florence Rushton [later Florence Heron]. 1901 census : William Rushton [son of William] age 27 brewer. Florence Rushton [daughter of William Rushton] barmaid. Betsy Rushton [daughter of William Rushton] barmaid. 57 & 59 Grosvenor Street West. 1901 census : John Howard Heron paternal great grandfather age 33 publican. Sarah Ann Heron age 71 widow, of 276 Burbury Street. 1911 census : John Howard Heron age 45 retired publican. Florence Heron [née Rushton]. 1911 census : William Rushton age 68 publican. 1912 rate book : rates paid to John Howard Heron for Artillery Street Ansell's Brewery, off licence, shops and houses. I have got more info but have tried to keep this brewery/pub related. It would be great to hear back from you if you have any more information.
Louise Cox [née Heron]
Stourbridge, November 21st 2017
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Your message gave me a reason to upload the small amount I have on the Heron family. I can only deal with that for now, though the Rushton family are interesting in terms of brewing. Rather than repeat stuff here, I will simply place a link to the Guildford Arms in Farm Street which has some information on the Heron family, along with some newspaper articles featuring William Heron, a publican who once wielded a poker at his customers! Good luck with your continued research. Kieron

Thank you so much for your reply, the information is so much more personal than trawling through census records. My 76 year-old Auntie can remember great-nan Florence, every day of her later years apparently consisted of her servant making her breakfast, playing golf in the morning, and getting blind drunk every night. No wonder I enjoy a pint, it's in the genes.
Louise Cox [née Heron]
Stourbridge, November 30th 2017
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I have read with interest the information you have posted about the Guildhall Arms on Farm Street. I am researching my family tree, initially maternal, Grindrod family. From the information you have provided I can see that my maternal great grandparents managed the pub, it appears twice, in 1901 and again in 1910. My grandfather, John James Grindrod died at the Guildford Arms in 1911 and in the census of 1911 his wife, Fanny Grindrod is listed as head of household at the pub with a number of children, including my grandfather Leonard. As you noted they had 12 children [actually 13 as there was an infant death] so family research is taking some time! I did visit the area last year to see if the pub still existed but, as you say, it has been demolished, though I did find the Queen's Head nearby and, having been brought up in the licensed trade in Blackpool, I spent some pleasant time in there sampling the local brew and chatting to the locals. I was also very interested in the information you provided about the Heron family, particularly the link with Dumfries. It is possibly a long shot but as a 17 year-old young woman, my mother spent some of the war years at a Dumfries farm before returning to Brum as an ambulance driver. If you or any of your readers can provide any further information I would be very grateful.
Barry Lloyd
Lancaster, February 4th 2018
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Hi again, having seen your posts I would just like to say that I would be happy to buy you some beers next time I'm in Brum! Also to add that I have now learned that John and Fanny Grindrod [My maternal great-grandparents] were also licensees of the Grand Junction Inn, Dartmouth Street in 1907. I presume they continued to manage for Atkinson's brewery? I have come across a news article where my great aunt is awarded damages after being knocked off her bike on corner of Dartmouth Street and Ashted Row, as far as I can see there is no Dartmouth Street in Birmingham and Ashted Row is highlighted as Ashted Circus so I presume it is now demolished. I am finding this part of my research fascinating because my parents managed pubs in Blackpool for Dutton's Brewery [taken over by Whitbread] but I had no idea that mum's father was also brought up in the licensed trade. My mother rarely talked about her upbringing in Brum and I have already discovered some 'skeleton's' in that a great uncle, James Grindrod is recorded as being one of the leaders of an Aston Slogging gang and is featured in the book "The Gangs of Birmingham." Finally, how did you come about the information on John [known as Jack] Grindrod who incidentally ended up as a Chelsea Pensioner. If you are interested I have a number of photographs of his army career, many in Tibet.
Barry Lloyd
Lancaster, February 4th 2018
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